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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 7:33:46 GMT
I was wondering if anyone uses recoil elastic when dropshotting? I am quite new to the method and after a short while being a bit obsessed with it I now usually take my outfit with me for when the going is tough and it usually saves a blank or puts a few more fish on the bank on tough days.
Is using elastic any more effective or just over complicating an otherwise reasonably simple method?.
I have some but have not tried it yet. I would have thought it reduces the amount of times you bounce the weight across the bottom keeping the lure where you want it.
Does it impart a lot more action on the lure and is this a benefit?
All constructive feedback would be appreciated.
Cheers
Ian
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Post by Yakkin Sam on Jan 28, 2015 9:26:00 GMT
Might be worth a try at least, just to see if it actually works/improves catch rate. I prefer to keep things as simple as possible (less to go wrong that way!).
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Post by Izzetafox on Jan 28, 2015 15:37:28 GMT
I have seen articles recommending it but never really done it myself. Rather than pay for the specific stuff have a word with anyone who does pole fishing. They will be able to give you some of their pole elastic or even buy some, it will work out cheaper.  I can see the logic and I have to try it. Terry |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 15:43:30 GMT
I don't know if the elastic will impart too much action which might attract more pike when targeting perch?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 6:56:52 GMT
I've just noticed that you can buy short pre-cut lengths of the recoil elastic from AGM Products. The pack comes with a couple of grip swivels for rigging. I suppose these would make rigging easier but might compromise the presentation.
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Post by Izzetafox on Jan 29, 2015 11:09:46 GMT
I guess it is pay out and then see how you get on. I think there are a few that would be interested in the results. Terry |
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Post by John (Zebedee) on Jan 29, 2015 12:09:35 GMT
I did buy some light Weight pole elastic to use as a recoil although I think to get full benefit of the elastic, wouldn't you need quite a heavy weight to keep in contact with the bottom? Otherwise I imagine the weight will just be bouncing all over the shop  |
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Post by Izzetafox on Jan 29, 2015 12:35:50 GMT
John I think a gentle touch would work. Dane showed me a way of put the wriggle in was just to tighten up to the lead and tap the butt of the rod gently. That would work with the lacy but as you say anything more vigorous would lif the lead although you would still get a bounce but not as well as a heavier lead that you could actually stretch and recoil the lacy.
Although if casting and sow retrieving along the bottom it may create more recoil as at would snag and recoil more vigourously.
If that makes sense.
Terry
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 15:07:51 GMT
The weight would be less likely to bounce off the bottom using elastic then it would just using mono or fluorocarbon but I can imagine a heavier weight would benefit more. I to some in a savage gear dropshot set I bought when I first started to dropshot. Next time I go out I will have a go and see if I see any benefits. Probably just over complicating things but you don't know till you try do you? Here is the link with Mads Grosell showing how he rigs it. www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Eg-YRWnVt4 |
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Post by John (Zebedee) on Jan 29, 2015 15:39:05 GMT
John I think a gentle touch would work. Dane showed me a way of put the wriggle in was just to tighten up to the lead and tap the butt of the rod gently. That would work with the lacy but as you say anything more vigorous would lif the lead although you would still get a bounce but not as well as a heavier lead that you could actually stretch and recoil the lacy. Although if casting and sow retrieving along the bottom it may create more recoil as at would snag and recoil more vigourously. If that makes sense. Terry I think it's a case of making sure the elastic is balanced well with the lead. Bit of trial and error problem with me is I don't do delicate very well! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 16:19:14 GMT
Its not just the fluorocarbon and elastic(if you use it) to take into account. Dropshot rods of different weights will impart a different action in my opinion. Thats just an excuse for me to have as many dropshot set ups as I have lure set ups haha!
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Post by shadstu64 on Feb 16, 2015 20:21:59 GMT
lazyboy ive used it and too be honest i found it too be unnessercery!!! stick with mono or flouro ...get the method right use the right sort of lures (wiggly and soft )and youll be fine ...ive caught one or two perch on mono lol
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Post by pikewhisperer on Mar 21, 2015 23:33:43 GMT
Not tried any of this drop shotting in anger yet, but the elastic seems a bit of a gimmick to me. The same tackle company's are saying for ultra delicate presentation you need to use FC over wire to reduce the chance of spooking the fish but you can stick a fairly thick in comparison, bit of elastic on the rig and that will be ok. 
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Post by Izzetafox on Mar 22, 2015 21:20:07 GMT
I will be on the d/s at Llangorse Neil. Gotta find the elusive perch. |
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Post by Jvanda1 on Apr 2, 2017 1:17:24 GMT
Seems near, at first. But think about it. Will you feel the fish biting? No....the elastic will absorb a bite and you'll loose most fish.
Plus casting would be strange to impossible.
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Post by philpot on Apr 3, 2017 8:26:54 GMT
I have seen a couple of you tube films using the elastic method but can't for the life of me think how it can improve catch rate. The whole point of fishing as light as drop shot or indeed UL lure is to feel the fish and really enjoy the fight. The elastic is going to soften the feel..............................so ?
If you try it Ian, let us know how you get on.
Oh and on a side note, I have found you a large popper to play with mate.
Phil
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Post by shadstu64 on Apr 3, 2017 13:15:13 GMT
pike whisperer ...not a gimmick at all get it right and its a deadly method for perch and pike !!most of all my best perch have come to this method afloat and from the bank ..im into my 8th year with the drop and ill never go fishing with out the kit in the car ..most people have a go dont catch every perch in the river as some so called expert say they will !!! and dismiss it as useless or gimmicky ...give it a go get it right and ill bet you enjoy it !! terry daz and lazy boy have seen how its deadly at toft when we ve been there !!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 6:01:16 GMT
This is a very old post from my early days with the method. I never did bother trying the recoil braid and TBH I don't often DS anymore anyway. Not a method I enjoy as much as I thought I would. Obviously it has its place and can be a deadly effective method, but it just doesn't float my boat!
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