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Post by andyk on Feb 17, 2015 21:43:46 GMT
Been wanting to try drop shotting for a while now but can't really afford yet another rod! I've got a Abu Garcia Devil 10ft 40/80g spinning rod and fox ultron 2500 reel. Would this do? Also, you must get pike going for the little lures, what about using traces?
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Post by Izzetafox on Feb 17, 2015 22:04:12 GMT
You really need a softer rod than that Andy. You don't have to pay a fortune for one though, I am sure someone will post a bargain one up.
The reel is a little big for some people but it is the rod that matters most so don't worry.
The amount of pike generally seems to be far fewer than you would expect but most do end up being landed. I think if there are a lot of jacks in the water then yes wire is advisable but the action will be affected.
Terry
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Post by andyk on Feb 17, 2015 22:28:02 GMT
You really need a softer rod than that Andy. You don't have to pay a fortune for one though, I am sure someone will post a bargain one up. The reel is a little big for some people but it is the rod that matters most so don't worry. The amount of pike generally seems to be far fewer than you would expect but most do end up being landed. I think if there are a lot of jacks in the water then yes wire is advisable but the action will be affected. Terry Thought it might be too heavy. What about a float/quiver tip rod?? If I have some luck I'll sort out some proper kit for it, quite like my fox reel so maybe the smaller 1500. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 5:32:05 GMT
I am new to DS fishing but here are my recommendations anyway based on my experiences so far, I had a go with lighter lure rods first and enjoyed it so quickly moved on to a dedicated set up.
I have the Fox Ultron 1500 for my dedicated DS setup and for the price I think its great. It also looks smaller compared to other 1500 reels I have compared it too. So if the 2500 follows this and is small for a 2500 it would be fine to use although probably a bit big. I teamed mine with a Wychwood Agitator 6' 3" 2 to 14g. Great little rod in my opinion that retails at about £50. I think a slightly longer rod is a better option though, but again this is just my opinion.
A friend of mine bought a Tronix Rockfish HTO U/L 0.5 to 7g rod for £30 which is really good value for money and he has caught loads of perch on it.
If you don't have any light weight rods then another good option if you do end up buying a new rod is a Sonik Light Tec rod. This is a light spinning rod that can be used for small lures and jigs, but works brilliantly as a DS rod. This way you add a more versatile rod to your armoury. i was looking for another DS rod so my lad could fish with me (any excuse for another outfit) so bought the 7' 1 to 8g for £54. For the price these are quality bits of kit. If I had to choose between the two and buy only one rod it would have to be the Sonik although the Wychwood works slightly better for DS work.
As for quiver tip rods my thoughts are that if you had one with interchangeable tips then you could have a rod for DS work with varying different options for sensitivity. Not seen one being used for DS but must be worth a go if you don't want the initial outlay of a new set up.
Hope this helps
Ian
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Post by andyk on Feb 18, 2015 8:10:02 GMT
Cheers Ian, I'll have a look at the rods you mentioned
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Post by shadstu64 on Feb 18, 2015 15:41:23 GMT
andyk ..youll find that once you go too over 4 in pike will begin too feature more in your catch rate ..5-6in baits should be used with wire if decant pike are in the water ....you will inevitably catch pike even on small 2in lures if you drop them on the pikes nose ..ive never been bitten off by pike (pb kayak 9lb) even on 6lb mono ..just take it easy give line when required and dont panic !they all seem to have the hook in the corner of the jaw ...if in doubt use 10lb -15lb soft wire ! theres lots of drop related stuff for pike on u tube .... heres my pb 9lb pike avoiding its picture being taken at toft newton resevoir 
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Post by dustylungs on Feb 18, 2015 16:57:45 GMT
This drop shot fishing method it a new one to me! Just been reading up about it , I must get out more  . Is it a good way of catching? Dusty |
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Post by Izzetafox on Feb 18, 2015 17:04:55 GMT
It's classed as a finesse style of fishing. You fish light so that bite detection is magnified.
Soft lures from as small as 1" up to about 3" are generally used every thing from just a bright coloured pice of plastic through, worms, shads, fish etc. A dangerous as as like lures you can never have enough.
Drop shooting has accounted for some excellent perch in recent time.
Terry
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Post by dustylungs on Feb 18, 2015 18:30:53 GMT
Do you still use a wire trace just in case a decent pike happens to take the lure.
Dusty
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Post by andyk on Feb 18, 2015 19:10:49 GMT
andyk ..youll find that once you go too over 4 in pike will begin too feature more in your catch rate ..5-6in baits should be used with wire if decant pike are in the water ....you will inevitably catch pike even on small 2in lures if you drop them on the pikes nose ..ive never been bitten off by pike (pb kayak 9lb) even on 6lb mono ..just take it easy give line when required and dont panic !they all seem to have the hook in the corner of the jaw ...if in doubt use 10lb -15lb soft wire ! theres lots of drop related stuff for pike on u tube ....heres my pb 9lb pike avoiding its picture being taken at toft newton resevoir I'll have to give it a go, love perch fishing and it seems like a good excuse to buy more rods and lures  ! Ive managed to land pike on worms and maggots on line as light as 3lb and never had a bite off but I've got some fine trace wire I could use if I need to. |
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Post by Izzetafox on Feb 18, 2015 19:11:23 GMT
It depends on the water and the way things are going.
If you are using sub 3" lures then you will catch predominately perch but there will be the random jack the comes by. Strangely most tend to be hooked in the edges of the mouth. If the worst happens it will only be a small hook which should be shed with hours not like a size 4 treble.
If the pike do start to show then wire is advisable or if you move over 3" wire again.
Terry
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Post by andyk on Feb 18, 2015 19:18:31 GMT
Love the rapid release action shot shadstu
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Post by shadstu64 on Feb 18, 2015 20:00:03 GMT
yes mate only no one told the pike about sitting still while redyak took pictures lol made us laugh when we saw the picture
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Post by philpot on Feb 19, 2015 15:13:27 GMT
Des Taylor has been using this method for perch for some time although he uses lobworm instead of lures. I believe he does this around the Trent venues according to a friend who has witnessed how effective he has been.
Phil
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Post by shadstu64 on Feb 19, 2015 19:53:15 GMT
philpot ive used worms dead minnows and soft baits for the past 3-4 years and they all work ....if the perch are there that is ....rules are ...................there are no rules xperiment with rubber and real baits !!!
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Post by Izzetafox on Feb 19, 2015 19:55:03 GMT
Thanks Stu your contributions here are great for us novice drop shot anglers.  Terry |
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Post by andyk on Feb 20, 2015 8:31:25 GMT
Defiantly giving it a go! Perch are one of my favourite fish too. |
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Post by shadstu64 on Feb 20, 2015 17:28:47 GMT
good luck andyk ..its agreat method for all year round perch fishing
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Post by shadstu64 on Jun 3, 2016 19:23:31 GMT
just a few pics   from last season
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