Perfect Kayak methods.

[Izzetafox]

Folks I have created this sub-board as I intend to try and develop my skills in the drop shot, down jigging and plastics.

I see these as perfect methods to use from a kayak and going by the way the Americans have adopted these styles we cannot ignore them.

I know many of you have already started and I am playing catch up. I think it is appropriate to try and keep all this information together in one section so that anyone who wants to gain knowledge on methods and lures knows where to come.

I hope you agree

Terry

[Daz]

it's something I'm trying myself terry.....like you say its the perfect way of fishing.

i think it suits perch fishing best....just my opinion

[greygoose]

I have tried ,and it is a style that apeals, not been very succesful! but I had been thinking of how I could use a wire trace and drop shot, I had thought of trying a 2" thin steel pipe ,like a long crimp but remove a section from the middle . Run wire in at top then at the open bit through lure eye or hook - whatever option/style being tried ,and down bottom section, crimp gently to hold in place, swivel on top and clip on bottom , bingo drop shot rig for toothy critters ! zander and pike are takers for plastic lures on the bottom,paticularly zander so I have got to try ,will let you know results ! , any other ideas ,alterations please say !

[Izzetafox]

This is the sort of discussion I wanted.

I think we are all looking at it and wondering how best to use the method.

Terry

[keithyg]

I had thought this, but the main line i have seen being used is flouro presumably because the method works so well with virtually invisible line so the plastic looks like it isn't being fished. would adding wire to the rig inhibit this stealth approach?

[Daz]

that was my thoughts aswell Keith so i came up with this



that is a size 1 owner mosquitto hook tied to 18lb knot2kinky which has a very thin diameter of .012"

its a little tricky to tie but with two sets of pliers is achievable

i used this knot



remember where you saw it first ;D

could also use authanic wire which is a coated braid.

[keithyg]

What's the action of the lure like?

[Daz]

Oct 25, 2012 7:04:30 GMT keithyg said:

What's the action of the lure like?

i will have to let you know mate

if you dont want to loose any of the action from the lure i'd go for authanic wire as it's a braid.

Daz

[keithyg]

well I had a few hours to kill today so cobbled together a drop shot rig, using my wife's lady spin rod as it was the softest tip I had, 3 ssg shots and an esp raptor hook.

Well I think the action was quite good for a plastic that probably cost £0.01 (part of a poundland multipack) could do with a softer tail.

Didn't catch but didnt really expect to tbh, never had any good takes on lures at the lake i went to - lovely clear water though.

[fenboystu]

Tbh i`d never heard of dropshot fishing until daz put up a post about it. So tonight i`ve spent a little time searching the web and think its something i may have to give a go as it does seem perfectly suited to the yak

TBC

[keithyg]

Same here kind of, I had a quick look ages ago but never really understood it but that's cause I was looking at off scale diagrams etc. Now its clicked a bit more

[Renrag]

Hoping to jump on this DS bandwagon before long, think it would work really well in my area. Also going to be trying out the 'Jika Rig' very soon too (next week if weather permits) with my UL gear, which for all intents and purposes is DS with the shortest link feasible.

[jagdverband44]

Renrag how are you long time no hear?? been longing to get out on the Thames and try from the yak but looking like one of those winters where she just aint going to calm down/be cleart enough .
See no reason why i wont work for you with an ubber short lead link ,not the pukka way but Rusty and me did best by casting to features and ubber slow retrieve .
Good luck Steve

[Renrag]

My take on the Jika/DS would be an appropriately sized hook/lure, connected in the usual way with a clip to a wire trace.
Instead of using 'proper' DS or Jika weights, I propose to fold a loop of mono through the snap link itself so it orients the bait correctly with some SSG's on but still allows free movement of the bait itself so it can be jiggled or retrieved slowly like you suggest but only an inch or so off the bottom.

[Daz]

nice link i found intresting

www.bassinusa.com/bass-fishing-articles/tactics-a-techniques/32-drop-shot-fishing-top-to-bottom.html

[esoxuk]

Here's a really good link, describes dropshotting simply and is very easy to understand, I found that it makes you really want to give it a go
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUCUHuV1vYY
Phil

[Deleted]

Can you not just use a very short snood on a paternoster style rig? I know the direct contact is the idea of the dropshot - the South Africans have been doing it for at least 10 years. But a 2" snood is hardly going to lose you fish, especially things like pike whcih will either take, or they won't.

For wire, try putting a small split ring, or fast clip in the wire and then just attach the hook to that - it will still wiggle up and down and be as direct as you can get. Shake the weight and it will work.

I don't like dropshotting. Tried it years ago in RSA and it doesn't give me much enjoyment. I have gone back to normal shad style - when I use one at all. I have to say, having got the little Snowbee Raptor outfit (4g-12g) it has rekindled a bit of interest in spinning/lure fishing and the rubber lure thing. Have a look at the Daiwa Duckfin shads - 9cm (4") and the detail is fantastic. I have some pics, but not uploaded them to Photobucket yet. The other thing about them is, unlike Fiish black minnows at something like £5 per body - they are £5 for a packet of 7.

[Daz]

i like the duckfins as they have saved me from a few blanks over winter

[shadstu64]

i guys been drop shotting for perch for just under 7 year now .it really is a simple method once basics are learnt !! ..ive a page on fb if any one wants to have a look ..any qs ill try to answer ..its a good method from kayak too !! ...ive been vertical jigging from bank as an experiment of late ..lots of pike and a few nice perch have fallen to the vertical v tails and 14-20g football heads .. ..ive also made a few wire drop shot traces for pike as in picture ..vertical jigging is as terry says something i want to learn more about !! ive also made some fireball jigheads to use with dead baits for pike ...lots of things to think about this coming season !!

[carlperkins]

I have used the hooks with swivels in from AGM.
I use wire to the top and fluro for the weight end.
I have also used this with a small roach lip hooked instead of a lure to devastating effects.
The Perch slam into them.👍

[farhanamuneer]

Paddling a kayak efficiently and safely requires some basic techniques and knowledge. Remember that kayak techniques may vary depending on the type of kayak you're using (e.g., sit-in or sit-on-top), the style of kayaking (e.g., recreational, touring, or whitewater), and your personal preferences. Taking lessons or joining a kayaks UAE club can also help you learn and refine your skills.