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Post by keithyg on Nov 5, 2012 11:07:22 GMT
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Post by Izzetafox on Nov 5, 2012 12:17:04 GMT
MMnnn! I already have the hooks Daicho. I like the look of that.
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Post by keithyg on Nov 5, 2012 12:53:18 GMT
I reckon its going to the way forward, ordered the hooks the other day, my only reservation is the balance of it with it not being straight through, but gonna be worth a shot,
May well have to up the lead size too
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Post by Izzetafox on Nov 5, 2012 16:40:40 GMT
Is there any logical reason why you could not just use a standard trace clipped above the hook? I guess this is going to be a lot of experimenting.  I have just ordered some of the 'swivel' hooks as an alternative. Doh! More gear. Don't tell the missus  |
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Post by fenboystu on Nov 5, 2012 18:54:59 GMT
I was messing about with something very similar the other day keith, i found the trace had a tendency to slip towards the bend of the hook tho this was only with a small live baby shad which is only 2.25"so maybe more successful with a larger lure as the weight of it would probably keep the wire in position by holding the hook more downwards.I also loooked at the swivel hooks terry and was considering using a small bead either side of the eye of the hook different to the ones as above, and crimped in position with a small swivel or loop crimped either end for attaching to the mainline and line at the bottom for attaching weights if you see what i mean.  |
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Post by Izzetafox on Nov 5, 2012 19:27:48 GMT
Well with so many of us experimenting we should be able to get somewhere with drop shotting.  |
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Post by fenboystu on Nov 5, 2012 19:28:55 GMT
We are  more confused ;D |
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Post by keithyg on Nov 5, 2012 19:57:00 GMT
We are more confused ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by keithyg on Nov 5, 2012 20:30:07 GMT
I was messing about with something very similar the other day keith, i found the trace had a tendency to slip towards the bend of the hook tho this was only with a small live baby shad which is only 2.25"so maybe more successful with a larger lure as the weight of it would probably keep the wire in position by holding the hook more downwards I wondered whether this would happen |
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Post by fenboystu on Nov 9, 2012 10:47:16 GMT
Have knocked these up as outlined above but have yet to try them out,hopefully will get a couple of hrs on the bank later to try out.  And have messed about again with the original rig above and came up with this rigged up on 20lb carboflex it does not seem to move up the shank anymore.  |
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Post by Izzetafox on Nov 9, 2012 12:06:20 GMT
That second rig isn't one for making up on the bank. Nice rigs...looks like I am going to get some more gear.  Terry |
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Post by keithyg on Nov 9, 2012 16:23:36 GMT
they look ideal, the second photo makes the lure seem a lot more static and not swiveling round. Top job,
Hopefully as the mrs is going out tomorrow night I am going to wangle a few hours tomorrow morning, i am going to try this and daz methods and see how they work.
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Post by Daz on Nov 9, 2012 16:47:10 GMT
i think we all need to go on a learning holiday to the states....maybe just a few weeks would help us learn our cause ;D
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Post by fenboystu on Nov 9, 2012 16:52:52 GMT
That would make a nice meet |
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Post by keithyg on Nov 9, 2012 18:31:27 GMT
We could call it work and then the Mrs' couldn't say no.
Alternatively become authors and it will be research
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Post by greygoose on Nov 10, 2012 20:53:33 GMT
Wouldn't mind that warm weather  , although a mate goes to Sweden a lot and has remarked on the massive pike they get in the baltic ,wouldn't that be nice ( I can dream can't I ?  ) |
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Post by keithyg on Nov 10, 2012 21:53:10 GMT
Got out for a short while today on the bank and the aim of the game was to experiment with 3 rigs I had been playing with knot2kinky and daiichi standout hooks. 2 of the 3 rigs  The one on the left didn't really sit right on the wire  The one on the right just sucked all round but had to try it. The other rig was similar to the German photo I recently posted up with the wire leader feeding through to the bottom eye and the bottom line feeding to the top eye  This setup gave me the most balanced rig although it doesn't sit vertical but with wire knots I didn't expect it to. I fished a 4" split tail silver phantom shad which a couple of pike liked but just missed the hook  Also fished the same rig with a 7" floating crystal finesse worm but with a stinger attached too  No pike on the bank this time but the bites show it works. The pike didn't seem to be interested today and the looks on the other pikers' faces said that with a 0 catch return for all 4. |
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Post by jagdverband44 on Nov 21, 2012 16:30:18 GMT
Spent a few days dropshotting the October before last with a mate on the Thames ,Bit of a boys hol for a few days bribed the misses to letr me take our narrow boat out for a few days and one of the spots we went to we had dozens of Perch dropshotting a few Pike [gooduns to ] and one bite off . We found the method very selective for avoiding Pike TBH but we were not doing it in the purist way....in short we cast out and then ubber slow retreived and you can feel the perch plucking at the dieing minnows we used...magical stuff. Fished flouro straight through as the rig and the one bite off although not nice had we been fishing worm for Stripeys for eg i am sure we would have suffered more than one . Not sure if links allowed [mods feel free to remove if not] but my mates blog gives an idea here www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/blog-b137.html&st=40Steve |
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Post by Izzetafox on Nov 21, 2012 19:02:30 GMT
No problems with links at all if they help and are not offensive, Steve.
WOW!!! What a cracking blog Steve. You have some great fish around you way. Some fantastic photos.
Links to sites like that are most welcome although I did consider banning you for making me feel very, very jealous.
Terry
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Post by jagdverband44 on Nov 21, 2012 19:30:33 GMT
Terry thanks for your comments but its my mates blog so cannot take credit for that ,I need to try and get him to have a go in my Yak to try to lure him to the dark side ;D .
Thames and Kennet on my dorstep but Thames is my first love coz you just dont know what swims in her....bit like the Trent i would imagine in short great potential if you can just find the fish in so much water....still be boring if it was easy eh? Steve
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Post by keithyg on Nov 21, 2012 21:12:16 GMT
ah man!
I shall not be jealous, I shall not plan a trip down that way (next meet?), I wish I could fish
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Post by jagdverband44 on Nov 21, 2012 22:56:01 GMT
Keith in all seriousness i am happy to have/sort a meet my end if any are interested ,Asn appitiser this post is about the EA survey boat doing 2 quick shallow water sweeps of a local weir pool last summer....5 weir pools in half a mile....know the locys well as up and down the river on our narrow boat so access not a problem Click the link www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/Great-weekend-t4439668.htmlSteve. |
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Post by vincent on Nov 30, 2012 13:38:40 GMT
Terry
I'm a bit new to this site,do you make your own dropshot hooks or will they no at the fishing shop what they are. or is the method to new?.
Vincent
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Post by Izzetafox on Nov 30, 2012 20:27:02 GMT
Vincent,
When it comes to drop shotting most of us are new here, the great thing is we are all learning together and can hopefully benefit from each others success's and failures.
You must have seen "Manchester Anglers" posts he is the most experienced at the moment and fishes the canals up your way. He is a great guy and I am sure would be happy to show you a few tricks, give him a shout.
As for hooks, they are made for the job, check out AGM on google you will find an Alladdins Cave. It is a great site run by a nice guy
Oh and welcome mate.
Terry.
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Post by vincent on Dec 2, 2012 10:46:44 GMT
Terry
thanks for the reply and all your help it good to read all the hints and tips I will admit most of the Ideas and methods go right over my head.its an excellent site, love it.
Vincent
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Post by Daz on Dec 2, 2012 15:24:49 GMT
i must admit on this one.....i have all the gear and no idea ;D i love learning new skills though....and it FISHING |
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Post by Izzetafox on Dec 2, 2012 15:29:34 GMT
i must admit on this one.....i have all the gear and no idea ;D i love learning new skills though....and it FISHING Well that makes two of us at least!! |
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Post by andyk on Apr 1, 2015 19:55:48 GMT
One of my club waters which I want to try my drop shot kit out on has a few nice perch but a lot of jacks. I was having an oogle on Google for using a wire trace drop shotting and found this old thread. Any updates on the experiments tried? Doubt most the people who wrote on here are still on the forum.
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Post by Izzetafox on Apr 2, 2015 2:39:11 GMT
Many are still here Andy. I think most have worked on the principal of wire for larger lures or if there are a lot of jacks. For myself that's the principal I have used but having said that if there are pike I usually go for vertical or casting jigs and a trace. Terry |
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Post by philpot on Apr 2, 2015 14:55:42 GMT
A pal of mine is a piker from the bank and swears by catfish braid instead of wire, now I know the whole thing with this method is not well proven but perhaps a heavy braid like this might work with drop shot as it has a more flexible nature.
I don't have a bloody clue and am happy to watch you lot sorting it out but perhaps it is food for thought.
Just as a matter of interest, as I have a rather large population of flounder living within a mile from my cottage, I am going to be testing drop shot of these little fellas, I have found out that the method works in clear water but drop in success as the water colours so fishing in the Humber bisto gravy will be fun.
Phil
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more confused ;D
, although a mate goes to Sweden a lot and has remarked on the massive pike they get in the baltic ,wouldn't that be nice ( I can dream can't I ? 
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