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Post by stonefish on Feb 20, 2013 19:49:30 GMT
 If you had a complete colletion of yo-zuri lures what plug would you use to catch a pike I will get a a bugger soon shallow dive or deep dive ? what colour or code ? what size ? i have been on the canal and they were not feeding or so im told i used a 9 cm g60 its silver purple and green one which one you use
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Post by philpot on Feb 20, 2013 19:56:32 GMT
I'm on the learning curve with lures Al, proberbly the biggest name in pike is Savage and their range but perhaps Terry and Daz will have better advice.
Phil
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Post by Izzetafox on Feb 20, 2013 20:53:36 GMT
Al, For me it is red, silver, orange, shiny in combinations. Take a look at mhcustomlures.blogspot.co.uk/ some great stuff there. Mid water would be my favourite this time of year, if they want it they will come up off the bottom. Mind you we are getting into breeding season so times will be hard. Summer time surface lures are fantastic....you can see a pike chase the lure and crash into it. Terry |
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Post by jono on Feb 20, 2013 22:51:47 GMT
Hello mate I don't have many yo Zuri lures but have caught pike on both the large and medium crystal minnows, and plenty of chub on the pins minnow and slavko bugs.
I only use the shallow version of the crystal minnow as the venues I fish are usually shallow ones, slow steady retrieve with the odd twitch seems to work well with the crystal minnows. Iv had a fair few jacks out the canal on the banana boat but usually after march for these little WTD lures.
Cheers mark
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Post by Daz on Feb 21, 2013 5:32:32 GMT
yo-zuri Al   trouble is mate the pike want it fished different every day mate. try the retrieve slow... fast ...deep...jerked. if you have a margin of say 4/5 ft deep the shallow yo-zuri would work well. keep at it mate..you will hook up soon where you fishing on the fresh mate ? pm if you pre fur |
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Post by stonefish on Feb 21, 2013 8:34:09 GMT
thanks for the pointers
gonna do dacre lake in brandesburton they have a few big ones that about 15 , 20 ft in the midddle
they are in driffield cannal with the trouts that about 4 ft deep and a bit more in other places
iv got them colours so ill try them
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Post by Izzetafox on Feb 21, 2013 9:09:53 GMT
Just a word of advice Al.......carry a bog roll with you!!
If you hook a 20 pounder when you see the teeth as it comes towards you you may just sh1t yourself as you realise you have got to get the hooks out of that tooth infested cavern. The bog roll will also help to mop up the blood, if you get you will end up bleeding like a stuck pig!
Consider the mesh glove and have one of your fancy disgorgers to keep your fingers clear. Most of all be gentle they are precious fish and damage easily.
Terry
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Post by stonefish on Feb 21, 2013 9:16:50 GMT
i have a good respect for fishes and will treat them well,
il use the savgage long thingys and a wet towel
im also gonna take me a expert
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Post by Izzetafox on Feb 21, 2013 9:46:42 GMT
Good on yer mate. I can vouch for the fact that any cut bleeds and bleeds and bleeds.....but it is worth it.
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Post by philpot on Feb 21, 2013 9:57:24 GMT
I called in the tackle shop yesterday as I am awaiting the delivery of Savage Real Eels, still not in. Whilst in the shop I was looking at all the unhooking tools, side cutters, long nosed pliers, long nosed side pliers, long and short forceps, long and short heavy duty forceps, savage trigger type forceps thingy, a waist holster for some of the above. A quick calculation on a range of tools without doubling up---£112. I left the shop without buying anything.
I have forceps, long and short some normal long nosed pliers and a pair of cam lock wire cutters. To hell with £112, I will get stuff as I think what I have needs upgrading.
Phil
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Post by Izzetafox on Feb 21, 2013 10:05:57 GMT
Phil,
Some of the serious pike men avoid forceps.
The issue being that you put your fings in the loops on the handles. If when locked onto a hook the pike spins, and they do....often, then the rotation has broken fingers. Pliers or the 'trigger' style disgorgers are preferred.
'Be careful out there!'
Terry
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Post by philpot on Feb 21, 2013 11:08:54 GMT
Ooohh, thanks for that Terry, noted and back to the tackle shop I guess.
Phil
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Post by Daz on Feb 21, 2013 15:19:48 GMT
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Post by Izzetafox on Feb 21, 2013 15:47:51 GMT
Perhaps a review would be helpful Daz.
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Post by buddy on Feb 21, 2013 16:28:16 GMT
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Post by jono on Feb 21, 2013 18:50:33 GMT
Just get a cheap pair of 11 inch pliers and some mini bolt cropers off ebay should get both for not much more than a tenner...forceps ok with small fine wire trebles but as soon as you get above 1/0 I would use pliers for the broken finger reasons given above. No need to buy named products, greys, fox, savage etc.imo. The tool zone stuff off ebay is fine...
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Post by jono on Feb 21, 2013 18:54:08 GMT
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Post by jono on Feb 21, 2013 18:55:24 GMT
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Post by philpot on Feb 21, 2013 21:20:35 GMT
Nice one jono, just bought them both.
Phil
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Post by snapper on Mar 13, 2013 21:18:00 GMT
My banker, at a couple of quid, has always been the Shakespeare Big S...for the last 25 years. Straight retrieve, cast it in an arc, then move ten metres and repeat. First one was red with glitter, later the redheads and blue mackerel became my best. I have a bunch of them, always been good lures. Storm wildeye perch, 2.5cm, are great too.
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Post by deerphil on Mar 13, 2013 23:09:20 GMT
My banker, at a couple of quid, has always been the Shakespeare Big S...for the last 25 years. Straight retrieve, cast it in an arc, then move ten metres and repeat. First one was red with glitter, later the redheads and blue mackerel became my best. I have a bunch of them, always been good lures. Storm wildeye perch, 2.5cm, are great too. Snapper, I agree and was thinking the same  I wouldn't be without a nice big silver Toby either, I have caught alot of pike on them - and Bass, Pollack, and Mackerel too ! |
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Post by philpot on Mar 17, 2013 18:47:20 GMT
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Post by ALtop on Mar 18, 2013 6:47:12 GMT
I think when anybody gets thier first big pike you need try and be calm and careful .I try to lift the pike out of the water with 2or3 fingers under the gill plate on the oppsite side to the to where its hooked.A net sometimes but usually gets hooked up and in a right mess.Always have wire cutters to cut sections of hook if in trouble and forceps.It always get my heart racing everytime.
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Post by gbthejoiner on Mar 18, 2013 10:20:42 GMT
I would agree with oddleg if you can avoid the net when fishing with lures with trebles all the better.As far as unhooking goes I would also agree that side cutters or bolt cutters are handy to have to cut the hooks if you get into trouble I prefer to use pliers rather than forceps to unhook though.
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Post by snapper on Mar 18, 2013 10:38:58 GMT
I haven't used a net on the yak in maybe five years for pike and at least three for bass. I don't even own one now. Being so low to the water I can chin any pike and either grab inside the mouth of a bass or lead it onto my leg and flick it into the yak while pulling the head up with the line. Back to pike, the only thing that takes time is getting it the right way around to be the opposite side of the lure but once you have a clear gill to work from it's quick and easy.
I dislike nets because the trebles catch and then if the pike decides to jump, thrash or roll you have a damaged fish.
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Post by philpot on Mar 18, 2013 10:53:24 GMT
I netted a pike of 5.5lb a couple of years ago and as you say Mark they can thrash about, fortunately the pike was ok but it had become stuck in the net as the trebles were well and truly snagged. It is difficult to explain but the hooks had snagged in several places causing the pike to be wrapped in the net and rather than the fish dying I had to cut the net quite extensively before I could even start to remove the hook.
I have not had the chance to learn the technique on the kayak as yet but it is my intention to chin em rather than have another problem like that. I was told that the rubber nets tend not to have those sort of problems but having never used one, I can't comment.
Phil
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Post by gbthejoiner on Mar 18, 2013 13:21:34 GMT
I think rubber nets help but if you get a sharp treble hook it still pierces the net. I have one of the spro nets but I try and avoid using it if its at all possible and like snapper says I hope not to have to use one at all on the yak.
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Post by ALtop on Mar 18, 2013 14:41:48 GMT
If i take a net which on a kayak is rare i usually loose it over the side a long time before i see any fish.Have one just incase if bank fishing though.
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Post by snapper on Mar 18, 2013 15:00:50 GMT
Done that ;D Lost a gaff second time out codding with it and lost a double an hour or two later  rubber nets are suppsed to be good, haven't tried one yet though. |
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Post by earthdog on Aug 21, 2013 18:08:23 GMT
A favourite of mine, is the good old spoon. They cast well, can be used on most rod types, can be fished shallow or deep, slow or fast, depending on how long you leave after the cast or retrieve rate. Another good use I've found, is fox make a trolling spoon, which is larger and thinner gauge metal, I change the trebles for a large circle hook, too combat weed problems. Hope this is some help. Cheers craig
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