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Post by Daz on Nov 3, 2012 6:24:45 GMT
was thinking about doing the BCU star awards for my self and my daughter......has any of you done any and did you find any benefits from doing them ?
also is the Agling trust worth joining and why ?
is the BCU worth joining and why ?
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Post by keithyg on Nov 3, 2012 9:40:34 GMT
Yes the star award is worth-ish doing. The way they used to be structured meant that you could purely use a sit on top, however for the new 2 star you have to use a canoe aswell. But they will show you how to be a lot more efficient in your strokes and get from a-b safer.
Hopefully in the next month or so I will get my coaching status back so will be able to do some of the star awards coaching for the group if interest is sufficient
Join the bcu? Yes just for the license and 3rd party liability insurance.
Join the at? Hmmmm
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Post by Izzetafox on Nov 3, 2012 12:59:20 GMT
I second Keiths comments.
BCU navigation permit exceeds the coverage AT gives with particular regard to Anglian rivers which are generally covered by the EA and The Broads Authority. I have been a BCU member for 5 years now.
The AT course is a 'kayak fishing' course as opposed to the One Star course which essentially teaches you paddle techniques. I did mine with Zeb & Buddy from NWKF my grandson came along. It was fun AND informative.
Join the AT??? I joined last year on a years trial to see what was offered. Some have seen positives but unfortunately despite hard work from Paul ( Darnsarf) things have not advanced as much as hoped and unfortunately as Paul has had to focus on different priorities in his life this year the relationship has not progressed as well as was hoped.
I have to say I have not renewed my membership but this should not be seen as a criticism of AT it is just a personal thing, they do without doubt perform a job that no one else will do.
Terry
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Post by dilligaf on Nov 4, 2012 17:35:58 GMT
I did my 2 star last year, and did my 3 star (sea) this year. Hoping to start working towards my 4 star (sea) next year. I'd say that doing the awards is definitely a good thing, just be sure to find a good place to do them. I did mine through the club I'm a memeber of, we've had people come through that have done the training through outside sources and the levels of competence in some cases are questionable. Not sure if that's because we have quite a high standard, or that the places that they have done their training are putting them through at a minimum standard? (Probably a bit of both) Definitely worth doing though, especially if you're daughter wants to join in too (good bit of time to spend together). All the stroke work is really useful, learning how to paddle effeciently. The open boat stuff is good fun, and all the skills are transferable no matter what you paddle. I'm not a member of the BCU, but plan to join in the new year. The AT is of no use to me, so don't feel the need to join. Rich  |
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Post by darnsarf on Nov 4, 2012 17:45:04 GMT
If its for paddling skills go BCU. Just dont expect to much until you get to 2 STAR. Although 1 Star is a great place for youngsters to start.
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Post by Izzetafox on Nov 4, 2012 19:46:43 GMT
The AT coarse is the only 'serious' kayak fishing course done by qualified expert anglers. It is fully approved and endorsed by the ADB ( Angling Development Board), part of Sport England. It was put together after much thought and research.
It is not something cobbled together by qualified paddle instructors who go fishing.
I do not believe there is an official course that can 'professionally' instruct kayak fishing AND kayak paddling.
Currently there are only two ADB approved instructors, I think one of our members is ideally placed to confirm this.
Terry
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Post by darnsarf on Nov 4, 2012 20:33:37 GMT
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