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Post by gbthejoiner on Dec 10, 2012 13:14:13 GMT
With the impending delivery of my kayak been thinking about fitting it out quite like the idea of adding a fish finder,the thing is where to start. Your ideas as always would be much appreciated
Graham
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Post by Izzetafox on Dec 10, 2012 13:39:02 GMT
Graham, You are only going to need a fairly basic set-up compared to some of the guys who are searching for wrecks and need a combo with GPS. If you look around the £100 max price range for one of the black and white units they are more than adequate for a clear sharp image. Stick to one of the main brands, Garmin, Humminbird or Lowrance and you shouldn't go far wrong. I am sure one or two of the lads will have a model they will recommend or give Banaman ( Steve) a ring 01603 747139 at Norfolk Canoes. He is a nice guy and was at our meet on Saturday. Tell him you are a member and I am sure he will be especially kind  Terry |
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Post by keithyg on Dec 10, 2012 13:39:55 GMT
I have used 2 fishfinders in the past, the humminbird 385 and a garmin 90. One has colour sonar & gps and the other has sonar and is black and white. In all honesty I preferred the one I have now - the garmin 90 no frills ff. It has minimum settings, minimum faff and tells me all i need to know. If I wanted to track where I had been I would use a map, yes the location of wrecks etc would be useful but being land locked there isn't much I need the gps for - the river will always need to be read for what it is on the day rather than what it was when I pinpointed the feature.
My advise is make a list of what is important ie Sonar, GPS, ability to mount in scupper, colour, black and white, etc, and then look at the main brands for the match to your specification. All brands are relatively good humminbird, lowrance, garmin etc.
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Post by gbthejoiner on Dec 10, 2012 15:37:38 GMT
I will mainly be using it inland so going on what you have said a basic black and white should do me ok. Which leads me to my next question can you get specific mounts for the unit and how do you mount the transducer ?
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Post by Daz on Dec 10, 2012 16:44:46 GMT
has your new yak got the option of fitting the transducer on the outside ?
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Post by Izzetafox on Dec 10, 2012 16:46:32 GMT
Graham,
Mount the transducer and battery inside the hull. Most use a product called Sikaflex for the transducer but if you rough up the plastic a bit for adhesion you can get away with a quality silicone. Do the same with a 'click lok' plastic box for the battery. Run the cables through a 'waterproof cable gland'. Look for the best price.
The big thing with the t/d is ensure what ever you bed it on there must be NO BUBBLES between it and the hull.
Terry
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Post by gbthejoiner on Dec 10, 2012 19:14:52 GMT
has your new yak got the option of fitting the transducer on the outside ? No don't think so its a Fatyak Kaafu. |
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Post by Daz on Dec 11, 2012 6:51:03 GMT
as Terry said above then NO AIR BUBBLES  |
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Post by keithyg on Dec 11, 2012 7:37:43 GMT
And a little tip for no air bubbles is to forget the nozzle on the sikaflex, the bigger the hole - the less air bubbles - oo er missus
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Post by philpot on Dec 11, 2012 8:15:24 GMT
far less of an issue with Sikaflex than silicone for air bubbles in fact I have never had any air bubbles in Sikaflex. I suggest you use 291i as this has proved to be superb.
Just a point on the ff, Hummingbird have poor plastic mounts which have issues with breaking, the Garmin mounts are far far superior. A model 90 or 140 would do everything you need and have very good screen detail.
Phil
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Post by kiocarp on Jan 13, 2013 1:30:08 GMT
daz you got the 410 same as me how and where did you fit a fish finder m8ty and have yo got any prices please
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Post by jagdverband44 on Jan 13, 2013 18:35:03 GMT
I have had a couple of the cheaper base model Garmins atbh they did everything i needed for river and small lake use ,find features not fish face.
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Post by Daz on Jan 13, 2013 19:02:57 GMT
daz you got the 410 same as me how and where did you fit a fish finder m8ty and have yo got any prices please will take pics tuesday matey |
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Post by kiocarp on Jan 13, 2013 19:19:22 GMT
cheers m8ty
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Post by massivepotatoes on Jan 13, 2013 21:58:11 GMT
I have a basic black and white display fish finder which seems pretty good to me. It has no navigation/gps facility so I later added a hand held gps to my kit (ex-ebay). Having a separate unit means I can also use it for other activities such as hill walking and geocaching. My kids have really taken to geocaching!
I found the best price for Sikaflex at my local Screwfix Direct.
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Post by hewy40 on Jan 23, 2013 14:30:37 GMT
has your new yak got the option of fitting the transducer on the outside ? No don't think so its a Fatyak Kaafu. Graham, the kaafu has got a transducer scupper and it has been designed to take the humminbird plastic through hull transducer, product no. xth920p. This will fit one of the scupper holes by your feet. There is a raised area just forward of this which has been thickened up to mount the f/f. The only problem i can see with this is if your feet need to go in the furthest footrest your foot will constantly be hitting the part of the transducer that comes up through the hole. |
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Post by Izzetafox on Jan 23, 2013 16:42:46 GMT
The only problem with scupper mounted transducers is the cabling.
You will probably be storing the battery in the hull so you have to have a hole in the hull for the power anyway. With the xth920p you get 30ft of cable which has to be stored somewhere. Using the thru hull and Sikaflex/silicon etc mounting everything can be kept neatly in the hull with one hole and cable gland near the FF mounting panel.
Terry
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Post by fenboystu on Jan 23, 2013 18:53:17 GMT
I have the scupper hole transducer on my trident 13 i just coiled it all up inside the hull and cable tied it to the scupper tube, nice and tidy |
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