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Post by joelski99 on Mar 19, 2013 12:36:53 GMT
Hi there, this may sound familiar to a few of you who helped me first time round but iv drawn up some initial design concepts for my angling kayak as part of my university major design project. If you could check them out at the link below and leave your feedback it would be very much appreciated. jk-kayaks.tumblr.com/Cheers |
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Post by philpot on Mar 19, 2013 21:19:11 GMT
Response given. Love No2
Phil
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Post by Daz on Mar 20, 2013 6:03:04 GMT
i think this could be a winner...i just cant see how you could make it strong enough and so dirt does not mess the moving parts up ?  great stuff....well done  |
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Post by philpot on Mar 20, 2013 7:54:15 GMT
I very much like this but the inner cell is very exposed to water ingress in a chop or swell. Don't know how to show the picture but No 2 is a similar option but retains the structure of the kayak as a whole although the outriggers would be better served either well to the front or better still well to the rear so paddling could still be done effectively. The Freedom Hawk series of kayaks have used swing out arms to form outriggers or a letter ' Y ' to create stability and have been in production for a few years now. I nearly bought one a couple of years ago but was put off by comments on another site. Very unlike me to take any notice of others when my mind is made up. www.freedomhawkkayaks.com/I would enjoy talking to this Young man, he has some really good ideas but it might be a struggle to get them into production. Phil |
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Post by Daz on Mar 20, 2013 16:08:31 GMT
i thought these was freshwater kayak designs so swell and chop wouldnt be such a problem ?
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Post by philpot on Mar 20, 2013 19:21:03 GMT
Well Joel has asked for feedback on several sites so I assumed that they could be either, perhaps he can confirm when he looks in.
Phil
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Post by Izzetafox on Mar 20, 2013 19:52:59 GMT
I like the concept of the movable sections a bit but I think we have to be realistic, the cost of molding three or even five sections then the engineering to deploy them would push the casts sky high. The niche market they would appeal to would not generate enough orders to bring the price down by volume production.
Immediate flaws seem to be lack of legroom for a stretch at anchor, flat surfaces for ff, rod holders, battery. All those pontoons would be a nightmare playing a big fish.
Let's just remember though that this is a Uni concept project. The probability of anything other than a prototype is minimal. But good luck to you mate for having the idea to try and improve things.
Terry
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Post by Daz on Mar 21, 2013 5:45:52 GMT
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Post by Izzetafox on Mar 21, 2013 9:31:04 GMT
You are correct Daz.
The title of the original thread was:
Perfect freshwater fishing kayak
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Post by philpot on Mar 21, 2013 10:08:06 GMT
Yes, spot on Daz, I hadn't noticed that.
However, I will take a manufacturer's point of view here and say that if designing a craft for fishing, wouldn't be better to be capable of both after all the cost of producing a mold is the most expensive aspect so any manufacturer needs to amortize their investment as soon as possible by means of sales.
With that in mind, Young Joel should be looking at the bigger picture in order further this project if an opportunity presented itself and apart from that a student needs to learn that good designs are the ones that go through to production, wild cards very rarely make it.
Phil
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