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Post by Daz on Jun 28, 2013 6:13:43 GMT
i do admit im a total amateur when it comes to cast flies and it makes it worse sitting down, any tips that i should know ? ,also, how the hell do you cast a fly with a wind blowing ?
Daz
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Post by philpot on Jun 28, 2013 7:53:09 GMT
I am as you know, no expert but for me a rod with a stiffish action helps no end. A shooting head line is a big help to generate speed also makes a difference and I cast at about 45 degrees to my body which tends to keep a large fly out of my ear. As for wind, I generate my own so no problem there.  Just reposition the kayak to keep the wind coming from your left if you are right handed. Phil |
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Post by Daz on Jun 28, 2013 13:18:32 GMT
when we get a meet up your way Phil (hopefully soon) i will bring my fly rod and let you have a look to see if its set up properly  |
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Post by philpot on Jun 28, 2013 13:28:56 GMT
you can certainly have a play with my outfit Daz, I am hoping to go out this weekend and I am going to play around with another rod, reel and line combo.
Phil
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Post by Daz on Jun 28, 2013 13:53:13 GMT
i bought one of them rods that Simon was selling on AA but im not sure if i have the end tackle set up right.
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Post by philpot on Jun 28, 2013 14:30:13 GMT
You mean those Austrailian rods from Darado.
I will make you up a couple of end tackle, simple with the right stuff which for the life of me I cannot tell you what it is called but I will have a look when I get home. I got the gear from Pike Shack, but I know Simon is on holiday until the 6th July.
Phil
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Post by Daz on Jun 28, 2013 15:35:09 GMT
You mean those Austrailian rods from Darado. I will make you up a couple of end tackle, simple with the right stuff which for the life of me I cannot tell you what it is called but I will have a look when I get home. I got the gear from Pike Shack, but I know Simon is on holiday until the 6th July. Phil yes them rods, must admit they do seem well made for the money. |
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Post by deerphil on Jun 28, 2013 18:08:45 GMT
Hi Daz ,
I have found over the years that casting decent size flies requires
a minimum #9 weight rod and even better ( for me anyway ) #10
The back cast is as important as the forward cast, practice this and use it
when the wind is coming from the "wrong" direction. I use the back cast
alot and find it just as easy - great when the kayak drifts and is pointing the wrong way
and I want to put a cast to a certain spot.
In a strong wind just stick to the form and try not to start forcing the cast .
Use the double haul technique.
I love fly fishing for pike , you never stop learning and improving , Great fun !
Good Luck
Phil
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Post by philpot on Jun 28, 2013 18:25:46 GMT
Phil makes it look easy, believe me !! This is the stuff I was recommended to use by the pike shack, 6' of Seaguar Ace Hard fluorocarbon 25.5lb, 8-12'' AFW Surflon knottable coated wire 26lb and Fastach size 2 fly clips. These are the items   Phil |
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Post by greygoose on Jun 28, 2013 19:24:03 GMT
That popper looks good mate, I have been using weasels flies ,very good they are they,look so good in the water, that popper looks like it has a bit more of its own weight which could be an advantage at times and you could draw that over a sunken weed bed quite well I would of thought .
Chris
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Post by philpot on Jun 28, 2013 22:26:26 GMT
That is what I did last night Chris and you are right no problem at all with a weed bed. I am going to make a couple more with different foam heads as I found this one has an unpredictable flight path but I was getting tired so it could have been me.
Phil
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Post by Daz on Jun 29, 2013 4:38:23 GMT
i have a 9' 9/10wt rod with a Airflo Forty Plus Fly Line wf10 which was recomended by a friend, just like this one in the vid below, wish i could make mine do that ;D
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Post by deerphil on Jun 29, 2013 10:23:58 GMT
Daz,
You will be able to do that soon ! its just practice and technique
Everything changes as soon as a large heavy fly is on the end though.
I would stay with slightly smaller / lighter flies and move up to big pike flies later.
Certainly the rod and line that you have are up to the job.
Correct end tackle as Philpot suggests helps alot , but I don't always use it - (lazy)
5 ft of 20lb and then 6 ft of 12lb finished with your wire and fly -- simple , and
I find little difference, still easy to cast , technique is the key.
Extreme distance is not even necessary when fishing from the yak, but helps
alot from the bank.
Hywel Morgan is one of the best fly casters around , but with practice you
will be casting a full line out , no problem !
Good Luck , enjoy it !
Phil
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Post by philpot on Jun 29, 2013 11:51:20 GMT
I would love to get a full line out on my 10# Phil even more pleased, in fact pleased is an understatment, to do that on the kayak. I really NEED to put in a hell of a lot more casting practice with a dummy large fly ie remove the hook bend/point.
Phil
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Post by Daz on Jun 29, 2013 14:20:28 GMT
Daz, You will be able to do that soon ! its just practice and technique Everything changes as soon as a large heavy fly is on the end though. I would stay with slightly smaller / lighter flies and move up to big pike flies later. Certainly the rod and line that you have are up to the job. Correct end tackle as Philpot suggests helps alot , but I don't always use it - (lazy) 5 ft of 20lb and then 6 ft of 12lb finished with your wire and fly -- simple , and I find little difference, still easy to cast , technique is the key. Extreme distance is not even necessary when fishing from the yak, but helps alot from the bank. Hywel Morgan is one of the best fly casters around , but with practice you will be casting a full line out , no problem ! Good Luck , enjoy it ! Phil CAN READY MADE SALMON LEADERS BE USED IF FEELING LAZY ? |
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