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Post by stonefish on Sept 23, 2012 8:04:17 GMT
hello no disrespect i dont do much if any fresh water fishing where i live the sea is good and has plenty of life and its free i have been intriged by these cat fish that live in the lake near me they are over 70lb now this has got me intrested in the fresher side of things a 70lb fish has gotta be sport (NO CLONKIN) I SAW SWAMP PEOPLE they eat em ! but these are going back i need some advise on them am i to late ! stinky sqiud and crayfish ? what rigs ? the place ill be fishing is a load of suken conifers that were they live i fish very rocky and kelppy sea beds and use appriote rigs can i use these tacktics thanks for any help was thinkin about taking a few bags of salt so i felt more at home
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Post by Izzetafox on Sept 23, 2012 9:48:42 GMT
Cam, First thought is if that's how big they go then be very very careful fishing for them from a kayak. Definitely don't go alone. These are very powerful fish and I suppose strength wise they are probably comparable with conger and from the TV I have seen on them they take just as much effort to get out. Having said that they can be a bit tastey when they are out of the water that's where my concern with having one at 50+ in a kayak comes in. I think heavy carp gear is the way to go but I think rather than me give duff info serious cafish sites are the way to go. www.catfishing-uk.com/Terry
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Post by Daz on Sept 23, 2012 12:58:44 GMT
isnt night fishing the prefured way for the moggys ?
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Post by fenboystu on Sept 23, 2012 15:24:26 GMT
Pop down and speak to the anglers targetting them or get friendly with the baliff they are normally quite helpful. Stu.
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Post by greygoose on Sept 23, 2012 21:01:04 GMT
strong carp gear, big circle hooks and salmon for bait! thats what I was told when I enquired as we,ve got them in the ouse now ,biggest caught 45lb.
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Post by frosty on Sept 23, 2012 21:06:17 GMT
hi mate i have only fished for cats from rivers best baits is live ells tied to a weak link to the opposite bank or island in 2 or 3 ft of water,some of my friends have had some good hits on big fish pellets,night fishing is best,and uptide rods and big pit reels,myself i have landed cats to 157lb on 3lb test curve rods but that's being dragged half a mile along the river banks,as for the scrap they fight like hell,sitting on the bank rod bent in half and knackered after a hours fight but when landing them slip your gloved hand in there mouth and pull the beasts out fast,if you mess about with them in the water there grab hold of your hand and spin you over or break your arm lol,as soon as they are out the water there very well behaved they dont wriggle or nothing they just sit there waiting for the photo and kiss,as for fishing for them from a kayak i will be giving it ago but need to fit a rudder first coz that fish will tow a yak for miles lol. hope this makes since coz iv been out tonight had a few drinks lol ,if you need more info let me,or let me know where your fishing for them and are come fish it with you.simon
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Post by stonefish on Sept 24, 2012 10:37:11 GMT
thanks for ya replys the cats are at green grass lake i think il go speak to the people that fish from the bank for them and see what they can add you are all welcome i think a mini cat meet is in order
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Post by Izzetafox on Sept 24, 2012 12:52:57 GMT
Is that a mini meet or mini cats?
Sorry I'll get my coat.
Terry
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Post by fenboystu on Sept 24, 2012 18:21:00 GMT
please do ;D ;D
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Post by philpot on Oct 2, 2012 8:15:13 GMT
Only once had a cat on the hook and when you consider the largest in the lake was at that time 35lb. It was like trying to wind in a fallen tree, these fish can swim backwards and their power is amazing. I got this one to the edge then he turned, straightened the hook and quietly left.
The bait used by most people was large drilled halibut pellets with a pva bag of soaked pellets in salmon oil.
I think I would want a buddy close by if I fish for cats from the kayak.
Phil
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Post by frosty on Oct 2, 2012 15:51:19 GMT
im going to try to catch a cat from the yak in France or Spain next year just to say iv tried lol, i think it might be fun getting towed around for a hour or two, i will have to fit a rudder on my yak and i will just sit tight keep the line over the bow and see what happens?anyone fancy coming along for a laugh,french cats upto 110LB and Spanish cats must be going over 200LB by now,i was out there last year fishing a private stretch of river and i don't think i had one under a 90lb, plus massive carp in the rivers. what a photo a 150lb cat laying across a yak haha
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Post by Daz on Oct 2, 2012 16:25:42 GMT
im going to try to catch a cat from the yak in France or Spain next year just to say iv tried lol, i think it might be fun getting towed around for a hour or two, i will have to fit a rudder on my yak and i will just sit tight keep the line over the bow and see what happens?anyone fancy coming along for a laugh,french cats upto 110LB and Spanish cats must be going over 200LB by now,i was out there last year fishing a private stretch of river and i don't think i had one under a 90lb, plus massive carp in the rivers. what a photo a 150lb cat laying across a yak haha
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Post by greygoose on Oct 3, 2012 19:29:15 GMT
That would make a tope look a pussy ! and they don,t have tree roots to hide in
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Post by philpot on Oct 4, 2012 8:55:46 GMT
I bought an e-book a couple of years ago on making your own bait. I printed out the book and I think I dumped the 'e 'version but if I still have it somewhere, I will post it so you can have a go at producing your own bait for the cats.
Phil
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Post by esoxuk on Oct 4, 2012 10:43:38 GMT
Carp livebaits of around 2lbs in weight are an excellent bait fished up in the water. Catfish will come up for them during the nightime. Phil
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Post by neilnbeanie on Oct 6, 2012 20:45:33 GMT
Hello mate, Ive had cats from the bank in England up to 76lb and i will say that i dont know if i would want anything over 50lb from a kayak unless it was the middle of summer and the water was warm, as i think i would end up in there at some point. Ive been out on a rowing boat on a couple of occaisions when ive been snagged up and on freeing the fish, the boat has been towed around for quite a while. If you hook one on a Kayak in a river, who knows where you will end up. If you insist, i can tell you that the best baits to use are Livebaits, fresh pigs liver, squid, Big lumps of lucheon meat (at least half a tin) deadbaits and halibut pellets. They come out during the day more than a lot of people realise and this seems to change from lake to lake so its worth finding out about your specific venue. Make sure you have good strong line, i would suggest at least 20lb and good strong hooks, make sure your knots are perfect as this will all be tested to the max for maybe up to an hour. As for rigs, you dont need anything fancy but i found that for baits like liver, squid, pellets and luncheon meat its best to use a long hair rig. Your not too late, but if i was you, i would get on it as quick as possible, this can be a good time of year as i think they seem to feed up ready for the winter and ive had some good sessions around about now. ATB and good luck. Neil.
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