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Post by kell on Feb 4, 2013 7:08:34 GMT
just bought phils ocean kayak trident prowler 13 Only problem now is all the rest of the kit to get before i can try it ? any body recommend some other pfd , paddle ,anchour etc I read somewhere that the rear compartment is made to take a certain plano box ?
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Post by Daz on Feb 4, 2013 7:22:45 GMT
just bought phils ocean kayak trident prowler 13 Only problem now is all the rest of the kit to get before i can try it ? any body recommend some other pfd , paddle ,anchour etc I read somewhere that the rear compartment is made to take a certain plano box ? nice buy www.wetsuitoutlet.co.uk/adult-c-29_148_149.htmlwhat size are you Kell ?
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Post by spadulike on Feb 4, 2013 7:24:30 GMT
Pm.sent. If u want to have a nosey at my gear you are welcome.
I work from home so can be around during.the day depending upon where i have to be and workload.
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Post by kell on Feb 4, 2013 7:41:54 GMT
daz fb is the size lol i am looking at a typhoon mb size i think spad i will give you a ring later if that is ok got to dash got a boiler to fit .
Just bought the typhoon dry suit
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Post by philpot on Feb 4, 2013 7:59:18 GMT
I think we need to get you into my drysuit Kell to see if it fits so that you know what you are looking for. A pfd is easy to buy from any kayak shop BUT it is important to get one that fits. When I say fit, that means it fits with the body panels staying where they should and not riding above your head, again you can try a couple of mine to check for fit. Many people buy a pfd that does not adjust to their shape so when in the water, it simply tries to go over their heads.
I'm glad you got sorted with Phil Eaton, you won't go far wrong with that outfit.
For paddles, value for money--Carlisle Simply Magic or similar but get glass shaft, they are far more comfortable and warmer in winter to hold. Price around £55-65 ask stonefish what he has available. pfd--Palm Symbiant tour £70-95 just as a guide price there are plenty of others cheaper and more expensive.
Phil
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Post by Daz on Feb 8, 2013 16:00:37 GMT
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Post by kell on Feb 8, 2013 19:26:31 GMT
Now got the simply magic paddle and a typhoon multisport drysuit. Just need the pfd hopefully this will be sorted tommorrow. Then a bit of decent weather for my first outing fine weather kayaker lol
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Post by philpot on Feb 8, 2013 20:32:40 GMT
I am so pleased that you are getting the priorities sorted Kell so you will be safe. The weather is not too great so take your time and pick a good day. You can either go over to Manvers by arrangement with Phil or you can come over to me and I will take you out.
Get used to the kayak first then if time allows, perhaps throw a line over the side but don't rush it. Feel totally comfortable with the kayak first before fishing, there is plenty of time for that.
A whole new world is about to open for you Kell, embrace and enjoy.
Phil
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Post by kell on Feb 9, 2013 5:28:50 GMT
Thanks for the offer phil may be taking you up on it, going today to pick up a fishing pfd now i have tried phils on and have an idea of what i need and how it should adjust. Just waiting for a couple of leashes to come but that is like a minefield in its self there are millions to choose from ?
Think i will look round for a tug as well but not desperate for that,
Phil is getting a new slayer and i was gutted when he told me as it was that yak that terry reviewed on a pike forum that made me want a yak in the first place lol , but after reading everything i could i wanted something that would be ok for the sea in better weather.
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Post by spadulike on Feb 10, 2013 9:43:57 GMT
Nice talking.to.you yesterday kell. We had a cracking session at brid with loads of action... It was all small.stuff so it all.went back apart from 4 decent flounder i kept. If you do.go out with philoptt id like to tag along too or even up to manvers as i have forgotten how to paddle...it seems like an age since i got out.
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Post by philpot on Feb 10, 2013 10:36:45 GMT
I know the feeling Phil. I was going to go out today, just don't feel like it. I am going to have a go with the fly rod for an hour or two on the Ancolme at brigg as much as anything just to get the feel of this 10# rod and big flies which are bigger and heavier than I have ever cast before.
Phil
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Post by spadulike on Feb 10, 2013 11:21:42 GMT
Enjoy the snow ;D ..oh almost forgot did.u manage to.find the roof rack.or has ot gone to the great roof.rack in the sky.
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Post by kell on Feb 10, 2013 11:22:50 GMT
good talking to you phil, I have forgot what it is like to chuck a line in the sea. I am all rigged for lrf now so the small stuff would have been great for me. Would have no problem with you tagging along but i will be frisking everybody within half a mile for hidden cameras seeing as though it will be my first time lol. My pfd will hopefully land next week and my cheap boots as well so as far as i can see i should be ready have even got a paddle leash and found some old phone chargers lol. There is one question though I saw on another forum about a styrup and would like to know more is it what i am thinking a shortish piece of rope with an end so you can put one foot in to push on to aid self rescue ?
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Post by spadulike on Feb 10, 2013 11:31:24 GMT
I made one fri night... Saw the wame post and vid on u tube.
Its is a length of rope withe a loop for a foot at one end and a small one at tye other to loop around a cleat or handle. Its about 600mm long. I used a bit of old fishing rod about 6" long in.the foot loop for a foot rest.
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Post by kell on Feb 10, 2013 11:38:26 GMT
Will have to look for you tube clip do you have to wear jodpurs to use it lol
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Post by Izzetafox on Feb 10, 2013 12:24:25 GMT
Lads,
Stirrups are all well and good but in the time it takes to deploy it you will probably have been able to self rescue normally.
Honestly it really is that quick and easy. Many talk of a stirrup but rarely actually use them for long. Best advice is just to regularly practice re-entry and you will be confident of being back on board in less than a minute.
But if it gives you confidence then try it alongside the normal style. I have a sit in kayak and for that I have a paddle float which could work for a SOT as well.
Terry
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Post by spadulike on Feb 10, 2013 15:05:56 GMT
I think the stirrup or ladder is just a bit of a back up plan. The paddle float looks ok but its a lot of faffing about.
Without a doubt the usual.self rescue for a sot is the way to go but its nice to have a back up plan.
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Post by philpot on Feb 10, 2013 16:39:36 GMT
Phil---no sign of the roof rack, just don't know who borrowed it. When the warmer weather comes along or at least not too cold, we can have some self rescue practice, venue to be confirmed. I have seen the stirrup before and it does work because I made one but no longer have it. Now Terry is spot on regarding self rescue, the only thing is that I for one am over 60 not fit and just a tad overweight . My kayak, the Big Game, is wide and not quite as easy to flip over although ok but I am re looking at the stirrup again but this time it will be fitted to the kayak via snap links so I don't have to faff around connecting it. I must stress, this is not so I can forget about self rescue but to aid me if needed and will be fully tested out. I can tell you that using them takes a little practice because the kayak tips over onto the side you have the stirrup connected so it is still requires a technique to use. Phil
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Post by kell on Feb 10, 2013 17:21:02 GMT
I was only thinking of the styrup as a backup after the guy on the other forum said he did not think he could have done another self rescue. But not haveing done one yet i will reserve judgement i cannot see the harm in haveing an extra aid at my disposal.
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Post by kell on Feb 13, 2013 15:36:56 GMT
pfd and boots have landed think i am all but there. dam snow
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Post by spadulike on Feb 13, 2013 15:42:38 GMT
Excellent r u joining us sun morning.
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Post by kell on Feb 13, 2013 16:16:25 GMT
I would have like a shot phil only problem I am booked on a syndicate lake for the big pike Sunday but if anything changes I will let you know
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Post by kell on Feb 14, 2013 21:04:30 GMT
All sorted now everything is here just need the time and a place for first steps into kayaking
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Post by philpot on Feb 14, 2013 21:10:25 GMT
The call is yours Kell, if you are having a go with Phil, fine or you can call me and we will have a bash on Ashby Ville Lake. Feel free to give me a bell.
Phil
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Post by kell on Feb 14, 2013 21:42:27 GMT
Cheers phil will know tommorrow if I am on the lake that we are fishing if not I would like to come on Sunday if that is ok
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Post by philpot on Feb 14, 2013 22:41:09 GMT
No problem mate. I would suggest that we get you used to the kayak before you try fishing though. It is important to get to know your new lady
Give me a call so we can just make sure you are sorted before you go anywhere.
Phil
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Post by kell on Feb 15, 2013 5:34:10 GMT
lol phil i have ni intention of fishing till i know i can handle it lol.Will ring later. thanks
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Post by yorkpiker on Feb 15, 2013 6:42:40 GMT
Good luck Kell - from all the advice / books I've read that's the way to do it, get used to the Yak first, paddling techniques, all the safety aspect such as self recovery etc, as someone who has boat fished the rivers for many years this Yak game is a total new level safety wise, so for me fishing will be on the back burner until I am completely happy and confident when I'm out any bad situation that happens I have the knowledge to hopefully deal with it. Looks like your in good hands though. All the best John
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Post by philpot on Feb 15, 2013 9:14:12 GMT
John, we will try to organize some self rescue practice probably at Cleethorpes for those who have not done any self rescues. It will be better to try these things out when you have some help to hand rather than learn when it matters and full of fishing gear because that is when panic takes over. Once you have done it a few times in practice, you wont forget.
Phil
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Post by yorkpiker on Feb 15, 2013 10:27:53 GMT
Cheers for that Phil I will definatley take you up on that. All the best John
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